MINUTES ASTM Laboratories/Inspection Bodies Committee E36.10 June 18,1996 Orlando, Florida 1. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at approximately 7:45 AM by the chairman, Earl Snyder, with members, R. Gladhill, S. Pringle, D. Rundle, H. Schock, C. VanderArk, and visitors L. Neumann, R. Hansen, J. Peraro, S. Hengeli, P. Molinski, C. Ramani, K. Mowry, P. Unger, Steve Mawn Minutes approved with corrections 2. Task Group Assignments 10.10 - Generic Criteria for Laboratories (E548) Chair-P. Holden; G. Engelke; R.Gladhill; P.Unger; C.Snyder; J.Locke; L.Neumann. Peter Holden not present. P. Unger reminded the Committee that 10.10 Task Group was reserving further development of E548 pending the Guide 25 revision/adoption. 10.20 - Generic Criteria for Inspection Bodies Chair-S.Pringle; R.Gladhill;; P.Unger; C.Snyder; C.Jaycox; G.Engelke; E.Starostivic. Sandy Pringle reported on the development of the companion document to E548 for Inspection Body criteria. The draft document should be released for review by the Task Group members by the end of July. Sandy requests prompt attention as balloting is anticipated before the December 1996 meeting. 10.30 - Computer Criteria (E1579) Chair-J.Locke; C.Snyder Peter Unger indicated that John Locke may not be participating any longer, but that he is still involved with ILAC and working on a related program. Earl Snyder asked for volunteers to Chair the Task Group, heard none and said that he would contact John Locke to determine his intentions. Steve Mawn said no action is due on this document for several years. 10.40 - Quality Control in Evaluating Laboratories (E1323) Earl Snyder said that he had not heard from Henry Francis, Chair of this Task Group. Pete Unger suggested that the placement of this Task Group be re-evaluated or re-affirmed by the Executive Committee. 10.50 - Accreditation Criteria for Agencies Involved in Building Construction (E541, E651) Earl Snyder said that he had not heard from Chairman Ed Starostovic, but would make efforts to be in touch with him. 10.60 - Construction Testing and Inspection Bodies (E329) Earl Snyder reporting for Claude Jaycox stated that the Task Group had discussed a balloted item it had received to which there were three negatives, two dealing with the conflict with States' laws regarding an Engineer supervising multiple offices within one company. The Task Group recommended these two negatives be found non-persuasive based on the fact that E329 is not meant to interfere with State law. Moved by Sandy Pringle to find these two negatives non-persuasive, seconded by Pete Unger. Passed 7 for, 0 opposed, 4 abstain. The third negative addressed the conflict between provisions in C1077 and E329 providing the "full time technical direction of a Professional Engineer" in C1077 and in E329 allows and Engeer to supervise multiple sites. The Group found this negative non-persuasive in that E329 would supercede the requirements of C1077 when E329 was involked. The negative voter, Pete Holden, was present and was not persuaded to withdraw his negative. Moved to find this negative non-persuasive by Sandy Pringle, seconded Lynne Neumann. 7 for, 1 opposed, 3 abstained. Sandy Pringle reported that he is currently working on the re-development of E329 to accommodate the mandate to more fully address the contents to include the requirements of the title, Standard Specification for Agencies Engaged in the Testing and/or Inspection of Materials Used in Construction. This will be ballotted as adjustments are developed. 10.70 - Calibration, Traceability, and Uncertainty (new document) George Engelke not present. No report. 10.80 - Reference Materials (new document) Pete Unger reported that the Task Group discussed the creation of a Guide 25 type document for Materials Producers for competancy following a drive by the international community to assure credibility. A draft is pending. 3. NEW BUSINESS There was some discussion regarding Harvey Schock's motion for a new task group to develop a document for Laboratories and Inspection bodies to use when presenting information to accreditating bodies. Seconded by Pete Unger. Harvey Schock will develop a draft document and will chair a new Task Group for Accreditation Information Format 10.90. Dave Rundle, Lynne Newmann volunteered to participate. Motion passed. ADJOURNMENT at 9:30AM